Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2016.11.07 16:40:49 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:But why a battleship in general? They seem to suck. They have a hard time hitting anything but other battleships. I don't know why you'd PvP in one (and perhaps people don't), and why would you put them in fleets? Seems like a fleet of battleships would have a hard, if not impossible time, against a bunch of cruisers and frigs.
This is only true some of the time and against very specific Cruiser comps. If you've ever heard of Armor HACs that's the basic idea. You make up for your lack of tank and DPS but being small enough and fast enough that you avoid a lot of damage.
That said those comps don't always work and like I said they're pretty specific. If you can pull range on on it has a pretty hard time, for example.
Beast of Revelations wrote:This is one place where I think CCP screwed the pooch. In real life, a frigate, destroyer, cruiser, whatever, would be toast against a battleship.
This is actually pretty false these days. You'll note that the US hasn't built a Battleship since WW2 and hasn't had one in its active fleet since 1990. These days a Cruiser, Destroyer, or Submarine can mount weapons capable of sinking a Battleship and Battleships are large, slow, and vulnerable to air attack as a result. It's simply not possible to armor a real-life battleship well enough to justify building a ship of that size and the "big guns" that defined the class are no longer necessary or even particularly dominant.
All of that said, comparing real life naval ships to Eve ship classes is an exercise in futility. It just doesn't work and creates unrealistic and false expectations for in-game roles and performance. The ship classes simply define size, how they're used is defined by the player.
Beast of Revelations wrote:But at any rate, tell me why these things are used, if indeed they are.
Large fleet battles mostly, though they also see some use in defensive fleets or anything where speed isn't much of a factor. It doesn't matter much if you have a low chance of hitting a Cruiser because he has half your EHP, your fleet can be spread out enough that he'll have bad traversal against at least some of you. More recently with the drop in price of Pirate BSes the Mach fleet is starting to replace the Maelstrom fleet because it brings more mobility to the table and Rattlesnake fleets are also seeing some significant use due to high drone damage, the ability of missiles to always apply at least some damage, and the brick tank on Rattlesnakes. |